Theme: Team Speak to friends of the rose of peace conference

I Am John. Talking about the roles. Next to translate into Russian-on persons. And in primitive, but near me understanding on personalities. God is a person.
Thanks to Jacob for the comment. Nekorektnost′ fixed.

Communication from the Александр59

I Am John. Talking about the roles. Next to translate into Russian-on persons. And in primitive, but near me understanding on personalities. God is a person.

That is to say: God is one in three individuals-to much to dot the " i "?

I also think that the identity of the three, but it showed the same our dialogue in timspike, not all are like that. The underlying dispute, if you noticed, was walking around the understand-" " in three persons.

New Conference from 22.02.2012 g.

Photos of Koktebel and extinct volcano Karadag.

The Conference was wonderful. I really enjoyed it. Apologize to the parties that did not participate. The fact is that I have not had a such a goal, because it first in my life, and I went through the first lesson of this participation. My goal was simply to listen and understand how it is discussed in chapter "the rose of the world", direction discussion, and what the purpose of the discussion of this book. For me has been a glitch in the discussion that I don't read all the "Rose of the world". And the discussion I realized that the participants have knowledge of all the books.

John would like to send participants to the discussion that is in this chapter, which was devoted to the Conference, but the discussion is left aside. And it is natural. Because, to try to understand the thoughts of Daniel Andreev and his experience of revelation is very difficult. It is clear that he was unable to fully convey all these feelings, because our Earth's language does not have those words and expressions, which you could explain it all. Yes, and not everyone is able to absorb all the way would like to give the author. I believe that this kind of book is not given to us as a technique for the common masses. No. Most likely, such books are people who have chosen the way of spiritual learning and growth can find answers on their own, any past experience, and take into account the fact that increased spirituality contributed to serve in churches (especially group service); solitude and communion with nature on an energy level; seclusion from the outside world and cognition of itself (the unintentional presence of Daniel Andreev in prison, where he was able to work on yourself by continuing to grow).

After all, we don't know what tests in life situations will give us God, trying to point out that it is through this incident or event in your life, you can get a good spiritual lesson. We used to perceive everything that does not match our expectations, as a kind of evil and injustice. And it turns out it's the moral push, the experience through which man must understand – whether in the right direction it is moving. I say very generically, as per person affected by many factors, both earthly and higher, which is very difficult to speak without having previously obtained the own experience.

For example, I found the answer to one feeling that always did not comply with the reaction of most people. Increasingly speak of doom, the prophecies of the end in various Scriptures indicate fiction movies the horrifying pictures, etc. The word "Apocalypse" evokes the terrifying people. And I somehow always covered the joy and peace of mind. That feeling I didn't realize even thought that could happen to me. But yesterday when I was reading the 1-th chapter of the second book "rose of the world", I found the answer:

"It is interesting to note that in English the word" revelation "literally equivalent Greek Apocalypse", do not stir, but the latter firmly establish themselves on Russian soil. For each of the two words established specific shade of meaning. The meaning of the word "revelation" is more generally: if not confined to narrowly confessional framework will need to include historic cases and events, such as vision and admiration of Muhammad and even enlightened Gautama Buddha. Apocalypse – only one type of revelation: revelation is not a universal harmony, no areas of absolute completeness, even Circle Star or other space hierarchies; It is a revelation about the fates of peoples, kingdoms, churches, culture, humanity, and the hierarchies, the Koi in these fates manifest themselves most efficiently and directly: revelation metaistorii. The apocalypse is not as versatile as the universal revelation, it hierarchically below, he is more frequent, located closer to us. But it is precisely because of this he was responding to pressing requests, abandoned in the crucible of historical events. It fills the gap between realization of universal harmony and dissonance of historical and personal being. "

I realized that the apocalypse is a revelation, which gives masses of people. It says: "people, take a look! What do you do with your world! Open your heart! Medley in them God was not verbal and sensual! Learn to feel compassion, love the pure heart! "-that is, the apocalypse is the time when humanity starts from one State of being to another. The man begins to prosvetlât′sâ. And it's not a tragedy. It is a joy for the higher worlds – "finally people began to wake up!"

Of course, many would argue, "well, what about those events occurring on Earth, destroying people?" Answer. This is a natural process, but only on a planetary scale. As well as you would like? Our Earth is a living organism, it also passes the stage of development and perfection. And all the dirt on the energy level that radiates Humanity, is an obstacle. The Earth makes a natural cleansing. Do not litter the mental world, and don't get a response. If it is difficult to imagine on a planetary scale, watch her body and all will understand.

But will return to the discussion. I wish to point out that all the participants are right in their rhetoric.

Leonid rights, referring to the adverse effects of such lessons. People are inherently selfish. He did not pursue pure intentions. Mostly they are driven by curiosity or an AX to grind. But such qualities of the soul does not correspond to the highest spiritual worlds. And, therefore, people not understanding and not knowing what's out there, beyond the material world, going crazy. It can even die. The mentality of people of the level does not match the energy to other worlds. And if the human Soul still young in its development, then naturally it will suffer. To make all those who warned: "without knowing brodu – do not go into the water". And correct those who says, "when you gonna ready – you will find himself a teacher."

Very important level of spiritual development. Sergei well told. Two people living at the world level and with their own various spiritual levels with the same direction of development experience different sensations: one that would work, and another is knowledge built already at birth, which must manifest itself in this life time.

By Daniel Andreev spiritual level was high. It was prepared to take knowledge of higher energy. Sometimes his organism, such revelations were hard, because the difference in energy capacity very affects the body. But, senior teachers know what potential energy is able to withstand the body of Daniel Andreev. It is for this reason, you should not be performing. If people would follow the proper spiritual development, the knowledge will come themselves, or rather, it would provide the Highest teacher. And then no one will experience the experience was Sergey.

Rights and Alex, saying that children need from an early age to speak about the presence of other worlds; teach them to find myself as a person, that in no way will be similar to the other; develop the individual spiritually, learn to put their feelings and experiences, thoughts and revelations in the material world. This can be done from kindergarten. The children of this age you can determine the level of spiritual development. If the child roams between interests means-his soul is young and should try to send. If the child frequently stretches to a particular interest, then he has innate abilities of this branch to be promoted. Schools must work to continue the development of the personality of the child and its inclination. Of course, comprehensive education is important, but not as full as the development of personal qualities. Naturally the upbringing and development of the individual had to address not only the institutions but also the family.

Unfortunately, such education is not possible. People are not ready to accept this. There are no specialists of such a level. Yes and the family must fundamentally reconsider the value of life. I think that such schools should arise in the future, since the beginnings of this trend is already evident. It is not possible to keep only successful academically children pay attention because there are those children who do not thrive academically, but have an innate talent. Well, if people in the process of life be able to reveal himself and to the masses. After all, how many talented people kill themselves just because they were not able to see and understand.

I will agree that the number of people starting to feel subtle worlds is growing. Of course, not all are prophets, prophets are elected people to whom the prophecy on Earth is over the top. All other students are at different levels in the same direction. And therefore, vision, revelation, experience and generally any mystical experiences are different. I don't think Daniel Andreev can be equated to someone. It has its own individual experience in connection with higher world, and shared them with humanity, as was certain (maybe he was told from above), that is what will come in the future. The time before that future thought Daniil Andreev, we don't know. We can only observe, discover yourself disclose his "I", and thanks to such books as "the Rose of the world" to monitor the appropriateness of their direction in spiritual development and growth.

But guys, you all well done!!!! I'll let you all just a single was heard, with an energetic atmosphere that both yesterday and today, at the time of this writing, had tears in my eyes-tears of joy and satisfaction that there are people who know how to think sincerely and share their thoughts.

And this is one of the missions on earth that you are for the benefit of all mankind

Reply To John.
This scheme. Actually everything is more complicated. I zadoval a similar question at Rawdon, Quebec (rodon.org). The answer to me is not absolutely clear, but intuitively take their version of the troičnosti, entirely based on the Rose world. Of Gregory Palamas-first God the father, he " izvodit " Holy Spirit, then the son is born. Primacy of the father speaks of unity. (Their words).

Communication from the Nataliya

The Conference was wonderful. I really enjoyed it. Apologize to the parties that did not participate. The fact is that I have not had a such a goal, because it first in my life, and I went through the first lesson of this participation. My goal was simply to listen and understand how it is discussed in chapter "the rose of the world", direction discussion, and what the purpose of the discussion of this book. For me has been a glitch in the discussion that I don't read all the "Rose of the world". And the discussion I realized that the participants have knowledge of all the books.

Hello, Nataliya!

Really glad you liked it!

That you do not " aktivničali " there is nothing wrong, it's good, because communication is a complement to, not a burden. The main thing that you have been

I, for one, really glad of your presence at our conferences for many reasons:

1) you have very positive energy, even when you break the silence.
2) you, your female presence, finally " razmočili " our male company.
3) Book " world rose " is focused largely on the philosophy of mind, which is more suited to male top, but there are those bright images that are close to women, and the women's perception is very important for us.
4) after our Conference, I began to look for a common platform, which would bring together the two " " contradictions in approaches to cognition of the higher Worlds. If you recall, opinions were divided on this issue.
I understood that there is undoubtedly a common platform, but to her words I immediately failed, and you do that easily and naturally:

Communication from the Nataliya

Very important level of spiritual development. Sergei well told. Two people living at the world level and with their own various spiritual levels with the same direction of development experience different sensations: one that would work, and another is knowledge built already at birth, which must manifest itself in this life time.

By Daniel Andreev spiritual level was high. It was prepared to take knowledge of higher energy. Sometimes his organism, such revelations were hard, because the difference in energy capacity very affects the body. But, senior teachers know what potential energy is able to withstand the body of Daniel Andreev. It is for this reason, you should not be performing. If people would follow the proper spiritual development, the knowledge will come themselves, or rather, it would provide the Highest teacher. And then no one will experience the experience was Sergey.

Rights and Alex, saying that children need from an early age to speak about the presence of other worlds; teach them to find myself as a person, that in no way will be similar to the other; develop the individual spiritually, learn to put their feelings and experiences, thoughts and revelations in the material world. This can be done from kindergarten. The children of this age you can determine the level of spiritual development. If the child roams between interests means-his soul is young and should try to send. If the child frequently stretches to a particular interest, then he has innate abilities of this branch to be promoted. Schools must work to continue the development of the personality of the child and its inclination. Of course, comprehensive education is important, but not as full as the development of personal qualities. Naturally the upbringing and development of the individual had to address not only the institutions but also the family.

Very well done!

Communication from the Nataliya

I will agree that the number of people starting to feel subtle worlds is growing. Of course, not all are prophets, prophets are elected people to whom the prophecy on Earth is over the top. All other students are at different levels in the same direction. And therefore, vision, revelation, experience and generally any mystical experiences are different. I don't think Daniel Andreev can be equated to someone. It has its own individual experience in connection with higher world, and shared them with humanity, as was certain (maybe he was told from above), that is what will come in the future. The time before that future thought Daniil Andreev, we don't know. We can only observe, discover yourself disclose his "I", and thanks to such books as "the Rose of the world" to monitor the appropriateness of their direction in spiritual development and growth.

And again I will agree with you!

Communication from the Nataliya

But guys, you all well done!!!! I'll let you all just a single was heard, with an energetic atmosphere that both yesterday and today, at the time of this writing, had tears in my eyes-tears of joy and satisfaction that there are people who know how to think sincerely and share their thoughts.

And you're a huge well done!

Communication from the Nataliya

And this is one of the missions on earth that you are for the benefit of all mankind

And you will too!

Natalia, thank you for such a detailed answer!

During the Conference, you basically listened, and here so here is a detailed suggested. Glad that is all you are interested in and the chord.
With regard to products-well, I at least understand the fears of Leonid, himself faced with some things, which became over time more cautious.
But for myself I decided to try to obtain that spiritual-mystical experience is necessary because 1) we will be able to better discern what we want to say to our friends, our celestial guardians, God. Because you cannot hear, until closed hearing bodies spiritual.
2) we can better understand ourselves, its purpose, its path and its place on Earth.
Without this you cannot move on, because neponimaâ its mission in a man just floats downstream and lives.
I do not offer its case to others and certainly do not want anyone to reveal their bodies spiritual vision and hearing, if people do not want, or not ready. However, I often came across that talks about the spiritual dangers of mystical underwater currents, and more are covering their own reluctance to do something, to change internally.
For example, when I first came into contact with other worlds much (and it was shortly after reading " Roses ") I realized that there is an urgent need to quickly change something in his lifestyle. This was one of the reasons why I gave up meat and fish, and I remain a vegetarian for more than 12 years. Besides, it needs regular prayer, to be more precise to say not even read, and sincere in prayer. This, too, not all are ready to ...
Of course, for the circulation of any techniques to the masses, not ripe. But I would like to believe that the new pedagogy, Daniil Andreev wrote which will make this possible. He wrote that first come first to be sent in these travels, wrote that they will, over time, more (there will be an age of Magellan planetary space, Kollumbov spirit). I believe in these words. Following the first come and others.
And I want to be if not the approximately, to open a small island.

Communication from the Nataliya

Very important level of spiritual development. Sergei well told. Two people living at the world level and with their own various spiritual levels with the same direction of development experience different sensations: one that would work, and another is knowledge built already at birth, which must manifest itself in this life time.

Yes, I will agree.
In this respect, the first task of every human being to embark on this path to properly assess your level, do not exaggerate so as not to fall out and not get injured too high with the bar, but did not play in order not to bury into the ground this God's talent, because this is a sprositsâ.

I will agree that the number of people starting to feel subtle worlds is growing. Of course, not all are prophets, prophets are elected people to whom the prophecy on Earth is over the top. All other students are at different levels in the same direction.

Yes, perhaps even going in different directions. of which, over time, not without the help of the Providencial′nyh force is one.

We can only observe, discover yourself disclose his "I", and thanks to such books as "the Rose of the world" to monitor the appropriateness of their direction in spiritual development and growth.

Yes, exactly!

I hope you will visit our audio interviews and more.

Next time, Sunday, 26 February at 2:0 pm will discuss chapter from " Roses " Raznomaterial′naâ peace " 2.3.5 " human structure. The head is small, but the theme itself is extensive and you can actively " Rosa " complemented by other sources. Probably, any thoughts ahead of everyone.

With regard to Chapter 2.2. and techniques of transfizičeskogo knowledge, then go back to it, I guess, on Wednesday, when Leonid.

Communication from the Иоанн

But for myself I decided to try to obtain that spiritual-mystical experience is necessary because 1) we will be able to better discern what we want to say to our friends, our celestial guardians, God. Because you cannot hear, until closed hearing bodies spiritual.
2) we can better understand ourselves, its purpose, its path and its place on Earth.
Without this you cannot move on, because neponimaâ its mission in a man just floats downstream and lives.

As for myself I decided to A lot has happened in my life that led me to this decision. The same and my sometimes very strange dreams, pushed me on this path. I have a lot of questions and I'm starting to request a response from God and teacher. I said: " God, give the answer. Teacher help understand ". I feel the presence of someone. And the someone I call a teacher.
Soon I began to find books of different authors and, interestingly, in sequence. Having read one author, and having read another, I have understood what is next, because it was felt that they complement each other. The book came with a a usložnennost′û.

Of course, for the circulation of any techniques to the masses, not ripe. But I would like to believe that the new pedagogy, Daniil Andreev wrote which will make this possible. He wrote that first come first to be sent in these travels, wrote that they will, over time, more (there will be an age of Magellan planetary space, Kollumbov spirit). I believe in these words. Following the first come and others.

(A) at the school of the future, I have special stories and dreams, and with feelings and desire to work in this direction. And so I realized when beginning work hard to find your own " I ". Now and " world rose " they receive assistance. Of course, not without the help of higher Everything is good in its season!

I hope you will visit our audio interviews and more.

If possible, I would have!

Discussion On.
Book 2. The metaistoričeskom and transfizičeskom methods of cognition
Chapter 2. A little bit about transfizičeskom method